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发表于 2002-12-11 06:48:26
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[quote]以下是引用LeslieNg在2002-12-10 15:31:15的发言：
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As far as I can see from the unique textures on the chamber liners of some recent productions (e.g.: Dunhill Classic Series, which was made in 1990, and Dunhill Mellenium), they're neither virgin nor pre-carbonized. I believe this is oil-processing.
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--> I don’t understand how can you tell which one is oil-cured simply by looking at the bowl? Pre-carb is a generalized term for bowl coating, every maker has their own unique formula (not necessary carbon based). For example, Rainer Barbi- carbon, Ingo Garbe- syrup+ash, Eltang- clay, Talbert- sodium silicate, Sixten Ivarsson (pre- ‘70s)- asbestos (!) and Hedegaard- some sort of paint. If you want to do a test, I can post a picture of different bowl coatings and let’s guess which one is oil cured.
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Further to your opinion on Dunhill's contracting their bowls to B.C. and some other manufacturers. Here goes my two cents: With the unstoppable trend of globlisation, I think consumers have been buying finished products rather than figuring out the raw bowls are turned by B.C. or Dunhill. Only if the brand ensures the product excellence, it'll still be around. Say, "No Reserves" starting from USD 1 Dunhills abound on today's Ebay. Another example: the Air Jordans, even the ones equipped by Michael himself on battlegrounds, might be "made in China"s, "made in Korea"s or "made in Vietnam" , who cares? I think the brand knows what they're doing.
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--> Your comment on made-in-China Air Jordan, IMO, is comparing apples and oranges. But since you asked, here’s my respond: How do I know Air Jordan are made in China? Because Nike tells me up front. How do I know they are not hand made? ‘cause Nike doesn’t claim they are made by hand. I don’t have a problem with Dunhill buying unfinished bowls from other makers. What ticks me of is this: Why stamp “HAND MADE” in “ENGLAND” when they are actually made somewhere else, by machines? To me, that’s dishonesty, that’s false ad.
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Further to your opinion on Dunhill's stopping their oil-processing, approx. from the 50's, could you inform how did you know that?
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--> http://tinyurl.com/3eqg
I was there when that conversation (Dr. Hanna and Bill Taylor) occurred.
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To the best of my knowledge, Dunill did change the "one-place-for-one-finish policy", i.e: "Italian briar had been used for the "bruyere" and "root", Algerian for the "shell", and Sardinian for the "tanshell" from the 60's due to the shorage of Algerian briar and some other reasons.
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--> Another marketing BS IMO. I have to ask this again: Since they are buying pre-turned bowls, how do they tell which one is Algerian and which one is Sardinian? And what if they found an Algerian bowl with no discoloration (means “good enough” to bear lighter stain), do you really believe they are going to put the black stain on it anyway (Tanshells are more expensive)?
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I look forward to communicate with you guys on this board using the Chinese Language (Tranditional and Simplified are both ok).
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--> I’m sorry but due to some tech difficulties, I’m unable to post in Chinese. You are welcome to respond in Chinese since it doesn’t look like I have trouble reading it! :-) I guess you can probably tell from my username and pass that they are rather simple/shabby. My intention was to read, not to come here and run my mouth. As the matter or fact, when I’m posting, I try to make it short and simple (look at my initial post, 4 lines, can’t get simpler than that!). However, I would like to say this: It seems like whenever/wherever I spill some info, everybody jumps! I think that’s rather sad…
Oops, I guess someone probably figure out who I am by now!
Gruß! :-)
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