Gregorian 发表于 2005-7-13 09:05:06

整片地往里塞?

想不出是怎么塞的,麻烦cc说具体一点~

素食主义 发表于 2005-7-13 15:41:56

我用过的两种方法:
1。折叠装填
    把Flake看成是一张纸,对折几次,使之形成一个近似的圆柱,就像一捆火柴,这捆“火柴”跟斗钵的直径基本相同。然后将这捆“火柴”竖向塞进斗钵,如果直径比斗钵要大一点,就捏紧,旋转进入。这样所有的烟丝条都是一根根朝上的,而且相互之间的结合很紧密,利于将来的燃烧。最后将在折叠时候掉下来的渣渣,撒在最上层,适当的压紧,装填完成。
    这种装填方式能让Flake在原始状态下燃烧,劲道发挥的淋漓尽致。如果多实践几次,掌握熟练,一斗到底是很简单的事情。尤其是大学压片,该压片每一张的量正好可以满足一只中型斗钵,这也可以看出厂家对这款烟草理解的深入,能把一斗烟的量不多不少的给你定好。大学压片如果用这种方式装填,其劲道是我目前抽过的烟草中最霸道的,烟草的味道也是很棒的。
2。揉碎装填
    将烟草在掌心揉碎,或者撕成碎渣,到能跟斗钵相适应的大小,然后象一般裁切的烟草,按照3层法装填。
    这种方式比折叠装填的方式劲道要柔顺很多,燃烧状况也比较容易掌握,烟草的风味基本上也能体现。
    Flake揉团装填的方式我也试过,跟揉碎装填区别不大。但是我觉得这应该不是烟草商推出Flake的本意。因为Flake在原始状态下比揉碎后重新装填燃烧产生的劲道区别还是很明显的。

cc 发表于 2005-7-13 21:38:33

整片是指不撕开,打竖对折一下,再打横对折(Erinmore是长方型盒长方型的切片),然后就可以塞进斗里,刚好半斗,然后照样塞第二片,面上用压棒压平压紧,然后是碳层要作好就行了。为什么不打横卷起来?卷不到啊,没这样的湿度。

发现整片更好味道和更容易烧,可能是整片的碳比搓碎的碳好吧?还有就是温度容易控制,不容易过热,也不容易熄火。厂商不预先搓开(用机器预搓我认为是更容易更节省成本的)当然是很自信的认为它的产品可以怎么用都行啦,全方位配合不同要求和爱好。


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alainhu 发表于 2005-7-27 08:37:17

在網路上看到的, 轉貼一下

Here is information about packing and smoking flake tobacco from The McClelland Tobacco Company:

A PIPE SMOKER? GUIDE
HOW TO SMOKE FLAKE TOBACCOS

English and Scottish-style Matured Virginia flake tobaccos are among the most interesting and rewarding for the smoker to taste; yet, they are avoided by many smokers who simply do not know how to approach them. This guide is intended to help the pipe smoker learn how to fully appreciate the zesty character and subtle sweetness of these premium, aged products. (It should also help smokers of the flavored American sliced plug and European flake Cavendish tobaccos.)
One reason flake tobaccos are left in slices after cake-maturing is that they retain their freshness better than in ribbon form. Flakes also enable the smoker to have some control over the burning rate and, to a small degree, the flavor.
It is important to prepare the tobacco before packing so that it has an even texture and to fill the bowl evenly, no matter what degree of brokenness is preferred. (The more fully-rubbed ?meaning gently separated ?a tobacco, the faster it will burn. Similarly, it is true that the thinner the cut, the faster it will burn.)
The more moist tobaccos should be packed more loosely than normal so they won? pack down densely enough to prevent a good draft. The ideal is to have the tobacco draw firmly, with a little resistance, throughout the smoke. The smoker may be able barely to hear a little hissing through the pipe as it is smoked. Too firm and the tobacco won? burn at all or one small spot will burn hot and maybe wet as the smoker puffs hard to keep it going; too loose and the tobacco will burn inconsistently and unevenly, perhaps causing the bowl to overheat in spots and moisture to condense.
Five Steps to Success

1. Put in the palm of one hand the amount of tobacco that it is believed will fill the bowl. Then pinch at the slices or rub them between the palms until the tobacco separates to the degree preferred, keeping the texture even, avoiding clumps. The denser the tobacco is left, the slower it will burn. (This becomes especially valuable on windy days outdoors.)

2. Gently but firmly and evenly work the tobacco into the bowl of the pipe until it is filled slightly over the top and feels firm but still springy under enough finger pressure to flatten the surface of the tobacco even with the top of the pipe. (We assume the pipe is clean at the outset, free of obstruction to a good draft, well rested.)


3. Now, while drawing through the stem, light the pipe evenly across the entire surface of the tobacco. After a few puffs to develop an ash, and while continuing
to draw, tamp the tobacco down evenly all around the bowl with a tamper. The goal is to have the tobacco packed so that it will burn as evenly and firmly as a good cigar.

4. Relight the pipe after tamping to get the entire surface of the tobacco burning again. Even burning is very important. Otherwise, hot spots may develop.

5. With only occasional tamping as the tobacco burns down, since it tends to expand and loosen as it burns, the pipe should now smoke evenly to the bottom. The aim is to maintain a firm, even draft throughout the smoke. The process is not difficult to master and with practice will soon be effortless.

Flavor Expectations

For those who are used to the ?romatic?or sweetened tobaccos that dominate our market in the United States, it may take some time for the flavorings remaining in the pipe to dissipate. Many smokers prefer to maintain one set of pipes exclusively for the natural, matured tobaccos and another for the sweetened varieties. It may be necessary to smoke up to four ounces of a natural product before the mouth adjusts to the clean taste and subtler range of flavors typical of these Matured Virginia tobaccos. The smoker is rewarded for the effort by becoming able to distinguish the delicate variations in taste and deepening richness these tobaccos develop as they are smoked.

Source: The McClelland Tobacco Company, and printed here by permission granted from Mary McNeil of The McClelland Tobacco Company.

cc 发表于 2005-7-28 23:25:49

One reason flake tobaccos are left in slices after cake-maturing is that they retain their freshness better than in ribbon form
一直疑惑的就是这种观点,新鲜的草好啊.为什么还要硬贮多好多年头呢?

Gregorian 发表于 2005-8-8 09:11:37

这里fresh指的应该是烟草成熟后状态的保持吧……

如果真按平时理解的“新鲜”概念等同,我们就要去农民伯伯家抽现摘的烟叶了

cc 发表于 2005-8-8 22:29:59

烟草“成熟”应该是指最适合吸用的状态吧?那有什么理由还要再去贮多少年,然后说比刚出厂的要好?
最近买从一台湾斗友那里买了两支烟斗,但由于汇的钱有多,于是我要了他半合罐装烟草(50g装)。结果到货时发现是半合2001年的965(合下面写着日期),颜色比新鲜的要暗而且还有白霜,吸用的感觉确实比新的要醇和柔顺很多,爱死。可能MIXTURE和FLAKE不一样吧?有机会弄盒陈年FLAKE来对比一下。
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